(Disclaimer: This isn't a very serious post at all! Also, spoilers everywhere. Also I have no idea what pronoun to use. :\)

It struck me that Thomas isn't a very attractive name for a girl. XD Might've ruined the ambiance of that secret club, you know. What do you think he might have referred to himself as when he's all dressed up?

If we were keeping in pattern of the names being in alphabetical order, and everyone from A to G dying... Something beginning with H, like Hannah, or Helaine? (The fact Harry Stewart exists doesn't really matter, since he's often referred to as Mr Stewart, and there's a few letters that are used twice [Jim Green and Jack the Raging Bull, Lilly and "General" Lysander, Fiona and Forrest]) It also puts her after G, which kind of makes sense since, you know, she loves G so much!

Or maybe they just call her Thomasina. XD What do you think?

I think ultimately it's more interesting to think why Thomas wasn't paired up with the A-G cast.

Perhaps as a way to establish a difference in Thomas, how he just didn't belong.

That's a good point! Though at the end, he was still one of the goddesses, wasn't he?

Georgia, perhaps?

Heh, same name as me? Wait--does that mean I've been Thomas all along!?? Now that's what I'd call a plot twist!
... wait, no, can't be, he looks better in that dress than I ever would, never mind

Actually... now I think about it, Vyse, you're completely right. Thomas wasn't killed as a sacrifice (he never ate red seeds during the game as far as I remember, and George used him to take the blame), so it makes perfect sense that he wouldn't belong to the A-G set too. Serious forehead-slapping moment here.

It's interesting he wound up with the other goddesses in the forest, then. I suppose that afterlife really did have no direct relation to being a "sacrifice". But I figure that's for another thread? (that probably already exists)

Well, that 'afterlife' segment was a bit of a 'perfect world': finally, everyone was at peace.

In the real world though, Thomas was a bit of a victim. Probably forced himself into a lot just to try and get George's attention. George was definitely using him.

It's funny you mention the afterlife and sacrifice having a relation.. But York was there too and, in a way, he too sacrificed himself...

In the end though, I think it just symbolizes the place where they can, finally, all be happy. Only Zach and the Ingrams see them... the duality strikes again? All victims (and symbols) of gruesome tragedies in real life, goddesses of the forest in the afterlife...

But, thankfully, we can also suppose he used another name in George's reunions, hehe.. Deadly Premonition really lends itself to this sort of speculation

that's why we need a deadply premonitin sequel.
there are too many parts of the story to reveal.
The role of willie,the role of the ingrams,the previous murders
and there are characters that have still something to give to the player:
The coroner in the hospital,the graveyard keeper,Jack the raging BUll and Rosa from the gas station...all of htem were suspicios.

Seriously i have no idea of what Thomas coross-dresser version's name would be...but i'll make a guess...Jessica Rabbit,after all he kinda resemble to her except for the red hair

To be honest I'd like to be kept a mistery. Just like Twin Peaks from which it drew so much inspiration, it should stand by itself, without everything blatantly exposed.

That's part of the magic to me, to allow us to imagine and not adhere to a straightforward script.
It's always got to be a game about suggestion and not objectivity...

[edited for making no darn sense at first]

Initially, I meant 'sacrifice' with a capital S, after being forced to eat the red seeds and having their tongues torn out and all. But now I think about it further that wouldn't have anything to do with becoming a goddess of the forest by itself, because it was just a trumped-up urban legend...

I'm kind of torn about wanting a sequel. On one hand, I've been burned BAD by sequels in the past. On the other, I'd love to know more about this setting and see what happens to its inhabitants (or where they came from!) Ideally I'd love a game that has different protagonists, but is set in the same universe....

I should have given this thread a more generic title because now I'm thinking of all sorts of stuff that has nothing to do with Thomas that I want to say

Dragging this a little way to being back on topic, I did like that Thomas is counted as a goddess to the very end and is included in that painting and everything, and wasn't just treated as a LOL WUT/comedy character, even if he did have his moments ('YOU SKANKY SWINE!')

Also, I wonder... I rewatched the fishing for files cutscene yesterday (I still laugh at how silly that was) and it struck me that I'm not certain what happened--so was Thomas the one who told George the new Raincoat Killer legend? Did he do that before he and Carol became George's servants, or after? Maybe he did it to impress him, or to give him more of the power he craved for another reason?

Or did Thomas write it down to pin the blame on himself if George started sacrificing people and law enforcement wanted to know about it? Either way, not only might have George been planning this for a while, perhaps Thomas is the one who caused it all to happen...

(If there's any facts in the game that prove me wrong feel free to let me know, my memory's hazy atm)

Once again here I go thinking too much into things. I'm sure half this stuff isn't relevant...

Actually, I think the rituals were completely unnecessary. George said during his final boss battle that he shot at some deer that wouldn't die because their stomachs were full of the red seeds. I think that shows that the seeds didn't need the lives of victims in order for the eater to benefit from them. Why he didn't catch onto that to begin with is anyone's guess, but he probably liked the idea of having to kill women. Kaysen only killed the women because the tree sucked the life out of them.

Harry also stated to York that the mystery surrounded the power of the red seeds spread and changed from person to person. The 'having to force feed the victims, cut out their tongue, and kill them' was probably added to scare away people from having to do it. No one in their right mind would do something so brutal, especially if they have little proof that it works to begin with. In addition, people usually don't get away with a single murder, but to do it multiple times would be extremely difficult. Given the time it takes to go from one house to another and in some cases some ways multiple entry areas, George took advantage of those extra minutes to do the deed.

Thomas truly loved George, even overlooking the murders to keep him happy, even willing to take the blame so George could go on. I've always thought of the forest like that of the one that surrounds Greenvale, kind of like the body returning to nature. Maybe it's not so much the sacrifices of the red seeds but more of the sacrifices of the lives to stop the red seeds.

If Swery can pull off a sequel, then I'd buy it in a heartbeat. However, given to the degree that everything's covered in the game, where would he start?